On 11 Nov 2014, at 22:18, Bruce Kellett wrote:

Bruno Marchal wrote:
If I tell you that I have thrown a coin, and put a dollar in one of two boxes according to the tail/head outcome. Send a box in Washington, and one in Moscow, and you open the box in Moscow, and find no dollar in the box, you know instantaneously that the box in washington contain one dollar, without any transmission at the speed of light. Well, the MW makes the Bell inequality violation of that type. Instead of W or M; it is an infinite or on all the equivalent state to up up - down down singlet state. That is weird, but it is just QM's weirdness, and there is no transmission at a distance at all.
Bruno

Do you know John Bell's article called 'Bertlmann's socks'? He explains there why your example above can never be an illustration of the Bell inequalities.

It assumes that experience leads to unique outcome, I think. In which case that is correct, but this means he assumes some collapse. If there is a collapse, Einstein already knew in 1927 that such a collapse needs to be "non-local". Without collapse, the singlet state describes proportion of correlated pairs of particles, and we get back to a local explanation similar to the one I describe in the quote. It is important to see that with the MW, a pure state still describe infinities of worlds/histories (like computationalism makes also mandatory).

Bruno




Bruce

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