On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Russell Standish <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 11:38:55PM -0800, Peter Sas wrote: > > I've read it... well I've read parts of it anyway... I downloaded a copy > > from the net, I don't know if that's also the final book version of his > > Theory of Nothing... The problem is I'm not too good with mathematical > and > > logical formalisms (I have dyscalculia, I mix the symbols up)... So what > I > > understood from Russell's book is rather limited, I'm sad to say... > Anyway, > > I printed a copy of Russell's book but it's storeda way now since we are > in > > the middle of moving... I intend to delve into Russell's book more > > extensively later... What I gather from Russell is that he too starts > with > > an information-theoretic account of nothing.... I appreciate his argument > > that an informational nothing is equivalent with a state of infinite > > complexity (Babel's library) where it is impossible to find relevant info > > and so the informational content is zero... > > You're close. Babel's library actually has zero complexity, > essentially for the reason you state. What it has an infinite number > of is books (which themselves are infinitely long). Actually, that is > more descriptive of my "Nothing" - the literal Babel's library is > actually finite (though astronomically huge), with finite length books. > > > It is unclear to me, however, > > how he is able to derive reality from such a situation... Does Russell's > > scheme, too, involve something like a spontaneous symmetry breaking of > the > > informational nothing? > > > > Exactly. The source of the symmetry breaking is the action of an > observer. Symmetry is restored by considering all other observers out > there in the "Nothing"-verse (more commonly called the Plenitude). > How so. Most symmetries broke before any observers existed. > > > Op donderdag 13 november 2014 08:23:01 UTC+1 schreef Liz R: > > > > > > Have you read Russell's "Theory of Nothing" ? If not, it could give > you a > > > better handle on this sort of thing. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Everything List" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected]. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > > Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret > (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
