On 21 Dec 2014, at 19:23, John Clark wrote:

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:

> It might be a common human trait to fear oblivion, but it is even more irrational than belief in an afterlife.

The fact that you've obviously lived long enough to learn how to read and write is proof positive that you too have a healthy fear of death.

Is it not an heathy fear of life? The fear to be wounded or sick, or not well?

To get my head frozen is a frightful idea to me, because you might give your code to the some madscientist in the future. Surviving might be easy, but surviving with some quality of life might not be that easy. I would do it, I would the society making some solid contract preventing this, but I am not sure I could even find the terms disallowing future unknown procedure.
The lives of the pioneers of immortality might be not be easy.

Theologically I tend to think that computationalism can make you understand that such material immortality is a sort of self- imprisoning. The hinduists might be right: the problem of death is more like how to avoid rebirth.

But I am aware that there is a "theological trap" here, something which is in some intensional variants of G* minus G instantiated formula, which is true, but wrong if asserted as if justified.

I think that comp can make you understand that we are already immortal. The problem is that we might not be who we usually think we are. The other problem is that if the fear of death can vanish, it might be replaced by a bigger fear of life and possible lives, other lives, etc. It replaces the mythical death (from the first person point of view it can only be a myth) to the concrete living suffering problem.

Bruno





  John K Clark


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