On Sunday, December 21, 2014 9:29:17 PM UTC, Bruce wrote:
>
> Jason Resch wrote: 
> > On Sunday, December 21, 2014, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] 
> <javascript:> 
> > <mailto:[email protected] <javascript:>>> wrote: 
> >  > Stathis Papaioannou wrote: 
> >  >> On Sunday, December 21, 2014, Bruce Kellett 
> > <[email protected] <javascript:> <mailto:[email protected] 
> <javascript:>>> wrote: 
> >  >> 
> >  >>     What's wrong with oblivion? 
> >  >> 
> >  >>  Most legal systems punish murder more than any other crime, and 
> > those that have the death penalty reserve it for the worst offenders. 
> > Most criminals know that if they threaten a person with death they are 
> > more likely to comply than with other threats. Most religions, in the 
> > absence of any evidence, promise an afterlife. I think this all supports 
> > the fact that it is a common human trait to fear oblivion, even if as 
> > John says it's just a matter of taste. 
> >  >> 
> >  >> Stathis Papaioannou 
> >  > 
> >  > It might be a common human trait to fear oblivion, but it is even 
> > more irrational than belief in an afterlife. 
> > 
> > Why do you think belief in an afterlife is irrational? 
>
>
> If you read more carefully, you will see that I did not claim that. What 
> I said was that fear of oblivion 


Fear of Fearing and Loathing Oblivion while There. That's Irrational.

Fearing Oblivion in a Conscious Mental State While Alive and Well Here. 
That's Rational because Oblivion becomes one of many words all exchangeable 
and adequate. But the Fear is the same rational Fear of Death. Mainly 
having to show up and do all the dying.

I don't fear. Dying is very easy. I know, I've killed lots of people. 

- Snake Pliscin
 

> was more irrational than belief in the 
> afterlife. 


The afterlife can only be irrational in the fully resolved logics of the 
Science to Come, which between its internal fields and disciplines Reality 
itself finalized and understood. 

People do it and it's so long assumed Rational that deploying a logics in a 
Science that does not begin to approach resolutions for a finalized Reality 
into statements in logic implicitly presuming this were not so, on the 
contrairy done and dusted Death, the Afterlife and did I mention Death. 
More or less. Done and dusted. Well enough for Science Now to resolve 
finalized Reality. Sufficient that our Logics Now makes the legitimate 
binding ruling, the afterlife is [...your answer here]
 

> That leaves open the question of whether belief in the 
> afterlife is irrational or not. 
>

That's exactly right too. That's the rational most that this can be taken 
in the Science Now

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