> On 5 Jan 2015, at 6:13 pm, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> For me the crux has always also been how does anything at all emerge from an 
> all-encompassing universal nothingness.


Well, you've read Larry Krauss on this by now for the Aristotelian theologic 
good oil. Larry may be right. I would also try Bruno's Platonic frame  - which 
merely states the universe is how numbers appear to themselves. The Truth is:  
Nothing emerges from Anything. Everything just is, was and always will be, just 
like in arithmetic. Arithmetic Realism. Grok it. Two plus two always did equal 
four and everything else can be doubted in some way. 

Trouble is, it doesn't immediately seem like a scientific conclusion to say 
"you are a very complex number and you are dreaming yourself" but there might 
be a less Stanley Kubrick way of putting it but for the moment it escapes me

Kim


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