Good article Liz, I believe that physicists and astronomers tend to follow the teachings of mathematicians from centuries before, and to this list we can now add computer gearheads. To develop the research tools to makes discoveries predicted by math heads, takes a long while and a sufficiency of money. -----Original Message----- From: LizR <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Apr 8, 2015 1:48 am Subject: Re: The Object
More from those crazy mathematicians http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mathematicians-chase-moonshine-s-shadow/ Mathematicians weren’t sure that the monster group actually existed, but they knew that if it did exist, it acted in special ways in particular dimensions, the first two of which were 1 and 196,883. On 8 April 2015 at 14:26, spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]> wrote: Ha! I can believe that a hypercomputing lobian machine can zip through the platonic realities that likely exist, but I must say professor Marchal, that experiencing mathematics at the chalk board, my dendrites do not function as well as your own. I will say the obvious that my neurological wiring must have been sub par when attempting to learn and, equally, important, memorize the patterns that mathematics involves. Memorize the patterns, then plug in whatever numbers. I believe that maths teachers run into differences in human neurobiology, rather than bad teaching skills or lazy students, or whatever excuse. Thus, being able to learn mathematics is truly a gift, and is not bestowed on everyone. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -----Original Message----- From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> To: everything-list < [email protected]> Sent: Tue, Apr 7, 2015 03:01 PM Subject: Re: The Object On 07 Apr 2015, at 20:19, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: I know people who do math really well, I am eternally envious. Math is the easiest branch to understand; it needs only works to get the results of the others. I think Gauss said that, and I agree, but unfortunately math is also used as a modern technic for torturing the kids, and it indeed makes people believe that it needs some gift or superiority to appreciate them. Something a bit like that, plus chance, might be needed to be creative and find a solution of an open problem, but to understand the works of the other, you can always find a path which suits you, if you are patient enough. The task of proving a new interesting theorem can be gigantic, but the beauty does not reside in that, the beauty are in the results. Only by being in love with some collection of results, you can develop familiarity and by chance see a relation missed by your colleagues and "masters". What is it that you don't understand in math? If you work enough you can understand that all machines can understand and explore the mathematical reality, and that there is for every taste: the Baroque, the Jazzy, the Classical, the Romantic, the Dramatic, the Comical, the Thrilling, etc. It is is huge, and if computationalism is true, just by being, you already solve a math problem. The feudalism thing is likely correct but beyond this specific discussion. They are winning and we are not. I add, sigh! -----Original Message----- From: LizR < [email protected]> To: everything-list < [email protected]> Sent: Tue, Apr 7, 2015 1:11 am Subject: Re: The Object By the way, the phrase "above my paygrade" was invented by someone less intelligent than you to keep you in your place, at least until they get around to reintroducing full scale feudalism. Well said Liz. Bruno -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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