Well, their way of control seems to be working. There's no massive opposition to their rule. streets are not being blocked, food shipments to NYC are not being halted, national strikes against the elites are not happening, tax strikes, etc, protests, riots. Do you see fights between Obamites and the 47%? Neither do I. So its safe to say that people are not upset at their rule. Will it ever come, a revolt, that is? What I felt was a certainty in 2010, or 12, is something that does not appear on the horizon, at least my horizon. So all the financial chaos I was sweating about never occurred, no depression, no hyper inflation, no cities burning -except blue cities (a pyre of their own making), but also no reaction from the white middle class either. People must be largely content. On solar, its a great good thing, but it needs storage tech to make it something else besides nearly useless.
Whats might be likely? The genius if petroleum engineers is prodigious as they have shown with shale gas, so on radar are two areas that may become commercial. One is methane hydrates and the other is enhanced oil recovery. Not exactly The Jetsons, but plausible. -----Original Message----- From: Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, May 2, 2015 11:38 am Subject: Re: SciAm predicts strong future for renewable energy I use solar energy all the day. I eat meat and vegetables and drive my car with products made with solar energy. Everithing is a product of solar energy. So what's the point? the point is plainly speaking, to fuck off people in a way or another. In a way that some people display their power, their moral superiority and to manage the resources of all of us, indoctrinate our kids if control us in the most totalitarian way that we can consent. Happy enslavement 2015-05-02 17:22 GMT+02:00 spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]>: Renewable could easily be a swindle, but with the Sun out there, based on Dyson's calculation, putting out 33 trillion times the annual human energy use, every second, it ought to be grabbable, somehow? Yes, the elites like Steyer and Soros are trying to control the serfs better, and demand that the serfs use less energy so that the elites can be happy. But solar is still working after 5 billion years, and the major bottleneck is not PV cells, the bottleneck is storage. Musk's lithium batteries may not do it, especially looking at the 3500 dollars defrayed over 10 years. Why renewables are seen as a fraud is that its used by the Red-Greens, as an excuse to grab more power. "Never let a good crisis go to waste." Is that seawater flooding your basement yet? Me, neither. -----Original Message----- From: Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, May 2, 2015 8:20 am Subject: Re: SciAm predicts strong future for renewable energy SciAm is biased as much as any newspaper. The governments have paid subsidies for renewable energy upto collapsing the economy with the debt in Spain and Germany at least. The amount of money thrown at renewable energy can not be compared with anything in history that I may remember without using google. If this tell something, it means just the opposite: that renewable energy is promoted by the elite as much as they can. How not? if they are obsessed with global warming overpopulation and all these terror film histories that may endanger their beloved yard? Or at least fill their yard with all these nasty childs of the disgusting populace? It means that renewable energy is a swindle. If any, it serves other purpose: the purpose to stop development. What renewable energy does for the eco-eliminationist antihumanist yard-conservation elite is not to stop global warming, but stop men from controlling their money for their own purposes with cheap nuclear energy or whatever cheap other. They divert our resources towards useless devices 2015-05-02 13:51 GMT+02:00 spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]>: If we fail to use better tech for energy, the fault is not in the stars, Horatio, nor in ourselves, but in the elites, who know best how to line their own pockets, but apparently, nothing else. Not even in an Atlas Shrugged sort of way. Unlike what we have all been taught, grass roots movements rarely succeed, (witness the Tea Party) whilst whatever the elites desire politics and policy wise, gets done. Societies across the world are ruled from the top-down, not the bottom-up. Energy wise, we likely could have (minus- Gov subsidies) make solar work via storage tech, supplemented by nat gas.But this is not happening, despite breathless propaganda articles. SciAm is hardly unbiased, and basically has been more wrong than right, over the decades in its analysis. -----Original Message----- From: Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, May 2, 2015 6:27 am Subject: Re: SciAm predicts strong future for renewable energy I was tempted to say: "Then, if no protection from sun rays, 400+ people are going to die, May it remain in your conscience" But I think that, once again, you will not understand. I think that the lack of understanding of ironies is a sign of social decadence. It means that people are so obsessed with a particular thing that they can not see the context, Anything against his little obsession is taken as an attack. And it may be an attack, but not as fierce as he think. But because the factual-obsessed lilliputian is not aware of the wider context, is incapable to respond at the same level with some sarcasm. For example you could have ridiculed me with some other exageration and we would have had a good time. But you prefer to throw at me the cold facts. But this is boring and that was not the point!. of course I know it!. This creates an inhumane and careless atmospher. And if lilliputians like that reach some power, things may be not as innocuous and intrascendent as a conversation between equals. <Warning: sarcasm mode. Don´t read it if you are not ready. You have been warned:> So for mental sanity of all, I recommend to establish limits for saving the planet. for example saving the planet in the morning, stop at lunch and continue a little more in the evening. But intercalate it with exercises trying to laugh at something, specially oneself. If the planet is in danger, you can interrupt the exercise, but most of the time, the planet may go along without you for some hours at least. Initially it is hard, but with practice It can be good for the phisical and mental healt. Try It! 2015-05-02 2:24 GMT+02:00 Russell Standish <[email protected]>: On Sat, May 02, 2015 at 12:13:22AM +0200, Alberto G. Corona wrote: > I have to say that these 440 persons that die with solar energy is > compensated by a similar number of skin cancer victims that are saved, > since the entire surface of the country must be covered with solar panels > so there is no way to receive sun rays. > Something is awry in your calculation. You only need about 100,000 square km to provide enough energy to supply current world consumption. That's a square about 300km along each side. We can comfortably fit one of those in our deserts outback with room to spare. So Australia can clean up in the energy business? Not really, as it would make more sense to site the solar array in the Gobi desert. Actually, it would make far more sense to have whole bunch of smaller arrays closer to where the consumption is, and to supplement by alternatives such as wind and tidal, but the point remains we're a long way from needing to cover the entire surface of the planet. Cheers -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. 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