Follow up,
I just received this news item in my email-
The WashingtonPost...... NEWS FLASH........ The Arctic Ocean is warming up.
The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some
placesthe seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the
CommerceDepartment yesterday from Consulafft, at Bergen, Norway.
Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radicalchange
in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arcticzone.
Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as farnorth
as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed thegulf
stream still very warm.
Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones,
thereport continued, while at many points well known glaciers have
entirelydisappeared.
Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while
vastshoals of herring and smelts which have never before ventured so far north,
arebeing encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.
Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise
andmake most coastal cities uninhabitable.
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I must apologize, I neglected to mention that this report was fromNovember 2,
1922, as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post -93 years ago.
-----Original Message-----
From: spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tue, May 12, 2015 6:04 am
Subject: Re: "Physicists Are Philosophers, Too"
Well your eyes must be very old indeed, because methane releases go back at
least 55 million years, when the great warming occurred and did change the
climate. Moreover, what are you advocating for a fix for this dilemma? This is
where X crosses Y.
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From: LizR <lizj...@gmail.com>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tue, May 12, 2015 12:16 am
Subject: Re: "Physicists Are Philosophers, Too"
On 11 May 2015 at 15:04, spudboy100 via Everything List
<everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hmmm. He does present a graph, but looking at the weather over 20 plus years,
climate catastrophe as they now call it, is not happening. The cause and effect
preached by the progressive intelligensia, or nomeklatura, is not occuring.
What climate schmucks are peddling, is something once said by philosopher,
Groucho Marx, who said: "who are you going to believe, me, or your own two
eyes?"
But it is happening, as Brent's graphs (plus thousands of scientific
measurements, hundreds of articles, etc) illustrate. The fact that it isn't yet
a "catastrophe" is down to the scale of the phenomena involved. You appear to
be expecting a cartoon version of events, and when it doesn't arrive (within a
ridiculously short timespan, to boot) saying that therefore it isn't happening.
(Or something like that - it's always hard to tell exactly what you're saying,
due to the weird political slant you put on everything.)
But since you've given me the choice, I guess I'm going to have to believe my
own eyes. I've seen plenty of evidence for higher temperatures, melting ice,
methane bubbling out of the sea, violent storms, low-lying islands being
swamped ... yep, the eyes have it.
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