On 5/25/2015 10:48 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:


On Monday, May 25, 2015, meekerdb <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 5/24/2015 4:27 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:

        On 25 May 2015 at 07:51, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

            On 5/24/2015 11:28 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:

                In a virtual environment, destroying the body destroys the 
consciousness,
                but both are actually due to the underlying computations.


            How can those thumped know it's virtual.  A virtual environment 
with virtual
            people doing virtual actions seems to make "virtual" virtually 
meaningless.

        The people won't necessarily know, but they could know, as it could be
        revealed by the programmers or deduced from some programming glitch
        (as in the film "The Thirteenth Floor"). But I don't think it makes a
        difference if they know or not. The answer to the obvious objection
        that if you destroy the brain you destroy consciousness, so
        consciousness can't reside in Platonia, is that both the brain and
        consciousness could reside in Platonia.


    Where ever they reside though you have to explain how damaging the brain 
changes
    consciousness.  And if you can explain this relation in Platonia why won't 
the same
    relation exist in Physicalia.


It could happen in both, but it is not evidence against a simulated reality to say that consciousness seems to be dependent on the apparently physical brain.

A reality is only simulated relative to some "more real" reality - so I'm not sure what the point of referring to a simulated reality is. The question is whether the move to Platonia really solves the mind-body problem or just rephrases it as the body-mind problem.

Brent

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