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Kim > On 3 Jun 2015, at 7:54 am, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: > > "Who is the Master who makes the grass green?" > >> On 3 June 2015 at 08:38, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote: >> So, Bruno, what is that 'illusion-maker'???? >> John M >> >>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: >>> >>> On 02 Jun 2015, at 04:43, meekerdb wrote: >>> >>>>> On 6/1/2015 6:31 PM, LizR wrote: >>>>> http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_dennett_on_our_consciousness >>>> >>>> He doesn't actually say that (and he probably didn't write the headline). >>>> What he says is that your consciousness produces illusions and it's not so >>>> transparent as people tend to assume. >>> >>> I suspect a wordplay. Consciousness is make sense of all illusion, but the >>> raw consciousness is the undoubtable fixed point, which is also non >>> communicable, nor definable. >>> >>> The fixed point, in the normal state, is rather more transparent than what >>> the consciousness might think about anything extending it, that is, >>> possible reality. >>> >>> I can see consciousness as an illusion maker, not as an illusion itself as >>> that would not make sense. >>> >>> Consciousness participates in the illusion ... of a primitive physical >>> reality, apparently. >>> >>> The problem is to explain the persistence of the illusion, and what can we >>> expect when and if waking up. Another illusion? >>> We can try theories. >>> >>> Bruno >>> >>> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
