On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Yes, but there have been so much counter examples for the 1997 WMAP > analysis that Tipler may end up correct. > I don't know what you're talking about. In his 1993 book Tipler made a number of predictions and said that if even one of those predictions was wrong his entire theory could not work; and Tipler's predictions turned out to be wrong, some spectacularly wrong. Tipler predicted the expansion of the universe would slow down, then it would stop, then it would change direction and collapse in on itself; from the heat of that imploding fireball he thought a hyper-advanced civilization could theoretically extract an infinite amount of energy. But we now know that due to Dark Energy (which he did NOT predict) the expansion of the cosmos is accelerating not decelerating so that fireball will never happen. Tipler also predicted that the Higgs boson must be at 220GEV +- 20 but we now know it is 125.3GEV +- .5. And Tipler predicted that the Hubble constant must be less than or equal to 45, but we now know it's 67.8 +- .77 . It's clear we don't live in the sort of universe that Tipler thought we did. More than one of his predictions was wrong so if we take Tipler at his word then his theory must be wrong too. Tipler > I am talking about the accelerated expansion reversing, I hold computer > theory as over-taking most cosmo theories be it a saddle, a doughnut, flat > as a pancake, whatever. And no, you need not agree, but for me it seems > apparent. You? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> > To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Wed, Jun 10, 2015 3:00 pm > Subject: Re: super intelligence and self-sampling > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 spudboy100 via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > Now you are talking of Tipler's Omega Point. A usable theory when >> combined with MWI, which Tipler supports. > > > Tipler's idea of the Omega Point was interesting in 1993 when he > introduced the idea, but unfortunately in the last 22 years it has proven > to be wrong. And no matter how beautiful a theory is if it doesn't fit the > facts it must be abandoned. > > John K Clark > > >> >> >>> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
