On 19 Aug 2015, at 19:17, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:

What I am guessing is the fear of those nasty Yanks that is driving all this. One doesn't need to be politically radical to be paranoid. In the US AT&T has been sending its comm records directly to NSA, it was revealed a few days ago. Tell yer mum, Liz, that to paraphrase US dude Ben Franklin once responded, "It's a Oligarchy M'am, if you can keep it." It was a Republic in the early days, and under those days of this Republic, we had slavery, the massacres of Native Americans, and a civil war to correct the slavery thing. I don't see Google as being more nefarious, than say, Zuckerbeg, the young multi- billionaire who owns Facebook. Are you ever on facebook, Liz"? ò¿ó hmmmm?

Tell Mum that it centuries past it was also called a Plutocracy. Rule by the rich. Liz, many of the Rich fund the now, socialist, Democratic Party, here in the States. Hedge Fund managers, like Tom Steyer, The Blackstone Group, The Carlyle Group, etc. As that fearful, man, Donald Trump, shouted during his meet up with the other Republican politicians 3 weeks ago, "They all take donations for their campaigns, that's why they listen to us, this is why Hilary Clinton came to my wedding 10 years ago!"

What do we all have to fear? Well, the billionaires are real smart, but they can make enormous blunders.



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From: LizR <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>; foar <[email protected] >
Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2015 3:42 am
Subject: A scary theory about IS

It seems completely bonkers, but....thinking about it.....it might just be made enough to make sense.

(This was sent to me by my 81 year old mother-in-law, by the way. She isn't known for being politically radical.)

https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/why-google-made-the-nsa-2a80584c9c1



Let us assume that the governments are not infinitely incompetent.

Then,

 - the governments know that prohibition does not work.
- the governments know that prohibition is the main fuel of criminality and terrorism.

From this you can conclude that the war on terror is fake. Indeed, if there was a genuine problem of terrorism, the first thing to do is to stop prohibition, and the war on drug.

Drug and terror are very plausibly imaginary enemies, made real by prohibition, directly or indirectly.

5 years of prohibition of alcohol has given Al Capone
70 years of prohibition of cannabis has given ... "the war on terror", very plausibly, I think (as I hardly believe that a government can be *that* much incompetent).

I am sure of nothing, but to make us believe that hemp, the most cultivated plant by human beings, is a dangerous drug, and hide the 1974 discovery (that mice brain tumors shrink with THC), and that after 9/11 cannabis is still schedule one, you do need a conspiracy. Infinite incompetence is not enough.

Now the problem with the text above, is that there are a lot of informations, and it take time to verify them, so I am neutral on that.

Yet, as long as prohibition exist, we should better be a priori skeptical with whatever the governments tell us, as usually liars lie and very often lie again, if only to distract from the previous lies.

Bruno





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