I believe a person subjected to that kind of experiment would rather quickly
become insane! And that if they were born into such an "experiment" the outcome
result would be the same.
-Chris
From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: Some questions on ontology of dreams
On 21 Sep 2015, at 03:16, Brent Meeker wrote:
If you raise kittens in complete darkness for a few weeks they never develop
vision. I don't think people who are born blind hallucinate visions. Those
are couple of data points. I suspect that if a person were to grow up without
any sensory input, or extremely impoverished ones, they would not develop
human-like thoughts or consciousness at all. They would fail to be a person.
I would say that they would fail to be a human person. But they might be like
the kind of non human person we can feel to be in state of extreme "complete"
amnesia. It would be like to be *any* universal machine before having any
input. Of course, here, I do speculate, but that hypothesis marry well the
computationalist theory of consciousness (brain processing) and the reports of
experience of some dissociative altered consciousness state.
Bruno
Brent
On 9/20/2015 5:21 PM, Brian Tenneson wrote:
I wonder what would happen to someone's mind if they were born in a white (or
any color) isolation tank. What would happen as years wore on? Would the person
ever hallucinate anything? It has only seen the tank for his whole life. So
what would inspire him to hallucinate something? Can he hallucinate, say, a
friend staring at him from across the void without ever seeing a friend or
anything for that matter except the white isolation tank. Would he dream and
what would he dream of? Would dreaming become one with waking? Would he even
know what a dream is? He has never heard the word "dream" spoken out loud. But
he knows which worlds decay faster or are more "curvy" in the world-line sense:
dreams decay faster or are more "curvy" than waking events. So, locally, we
usually know when it's a dream. When the event world-line is straight, that
means we pretty much never know what is a dream and what is "real"?
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"Everything List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
email to [email protected].
To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"Everything List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
email to [email protected].
To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"Everything List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
to [email protected].
To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"Everything List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
to [email protected].
To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.