On 21 Oct 2015, at 18:17, Jesse Mazer wrote:
Isn't there a pretty strong consensus among the experts that
"facilitated communication" is actually a Ouija board like
phenomenon where the facilitator is actually determining all the
letters through small muscle movements (the 'ideomotor effect'),
whether consciously or subconsciously? From what I understand,
whenever they do tests where the disabled person is exposed to some
sensory information that the facilitator doesn't have access to,
they always appear to be ignorant of this information in the
facilitated communication. Here's an article with more info on the
case against it:
http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/06-05-25/
This is also discussed in the article Brent linked to, and although
it mentions that Anna believed some studies showed it work, no
mention is made of any studies with this type of protocol where the
facilitator has no way of knowing the answer but the disabled person
should. The explanation that the facilitators don't want to put the
disabled subjects on display like "show ponies" is unconvincing--
surely it should be up to the disabled subjects to decide for
themselves, and it would be a rather amazing uniformity of opinion
among a large and diverse group if they *all* refused to participate
in such tests (especially given that solid evidence of facilitated
communication being genuine would probably result in considerable
mainstreaming, meaning a lot more disabled people would get the
opportunity to use it in the future).
Good point, and that is why I said IF the account is correct. It
seemed that D.J was able to communicate with Anna's Mother, and
someone else, but they were "ableing" activist.
It reamins hard to judge. From outside, more evidences are needed.
It remains interesting, as if Anna made this up, it is a rather
extraordinary account of self-projection, or of dissociated
personality. She wanted to quit her husband to marry with herself,
somehow.
In case you don't know it, the series "DEADLY WOMAN" is also very
interesting to learn about the humans, almost as much as the "(plane)
Crash Investigation series".
I hope there is some truth in Anna's account, though, if not I am not
sure who needs more help between Anna and D.J.
Bruno
Jesse
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]>
wrote:
A strange, and sad, case. But Facilitated Communication would seem
to be a corollary of Bruno's idea that conscious persons are "out
there" in platonia and just need the proper physics in order to
interact with us.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/25/magazine/the-strange-case-of-anna-stubblefield.html?_r=0
Brent Meeker
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