On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 1:14:28 AM UTC+1, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 01, 2015 at 08:22:13AM -0800, PGC wrote: > > > > The questions are comp related. I don't know why you *wouldn't* find it > > interesting as somebody who has written on duplication in comp context, > > even if you don't buy Samiya's take. PGC > > > > Samiya was referring to the well-known phenomena of parthenogenesis, > which can be understood as a natural form of cloning. Biologists get > excited about this, because sexual reproduction is still a rather > mysterious fact of the biological world, and there have been examples > of quite complex animals doing away with sex altogether (the classic > example is certain species of shark). > > It has nothing to do with comp duplication, which are thought > experiments about duplicating conscious experiences, not genetic > cloning, which is as old as the hills - as any twin can attest. >
Your statement assumes no relation between what you see as "biology" and "duplicating conscious experience". But without stating the theoretical background and placing all terms one would logically or mathematically use on the table, it remains as unclear as many of your statements. This seems therefore closer to your personal preference rather than an argument. Mathematical Self-Reproduction is a fascinating and standard idea, e.g. in the Kleene sense. This may not interest you or be relevant to your approach, but some of us enjoy the technical side of clarifying duplication used in UDA with the appropriate background. Thankfully, Bruno sometimes permits the filming of his lectures and even though theology is not directly treated here, clarifying the terms necessary for such theological discussions, assuming comp, could serve perhaps as an example to Samiya and others that *theological arguments should not be mixed with scientific facts without careful consideration of compatibility between arguments and statements, assuming different backgrounds/domains*, as errors can be made rather quickly. Thanks goes out to Bruno for making the effort to put some lectures out there in video form. I enjoy Bruno's posts and it is nice to have them complemented by video material from time to time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATl86jBfwqI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76iuXcVOAuc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5etar0vQYnI And not yet shared with this list, the second part of these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibedqHdXCKU&feature=youtu.be&t=5 Please tell me if there are any problems with the links and hope you guys enjoy. PGC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
