Thanks Jason and yes, I do appreciate them even if I miss your post by a 
whole week.

There are sides to this list where trolling and vain posing with 
sophisticated ideas, however valid such ideas finally may be, is 
disingenuous, self-destructive, and the work of unfeeling, insecure jerks 
with some agenda to prove to themselves (which they need to pull others 
into to support their addiction). This is unfortunate for those among us, 
that are unconvinced by propositions and assumptions that separate the 
theological discussion, machine discourse etc. from the material science 
question in a fundamental/dogmatic way because among these participants, 
there are virtually 0 arguments that can be construed to harbor bad faith.

It's unfortunate that the "theologically agnostic" (yes, contradiction 
intended) set of list participants is held hostage by fake jerks in terms 
of the history of this list. I've tried to convince the agnostics here to 
move on and cultivate their own list, but as we can all see, I've not been 
that convincing. I still come back to the list, but I don't check back for 
a week or more these times as the culture here has become more toxic than 
it used to be. Somehow people seem more frustrated and in need of a 
validation they don't believe in, but which they feel compelled to force 
from others in some elaborate game regardless.

And as nobody feels like wasting time playing therapist, savior, elite 
scientist, or patronizing correct righteous jerk with a bunch of 
name-crazy, status-needy trolls, I admire all the non-jerks that have the 
faith to keep posting. You guys know who you are and I wish you safe 
passage on your travels. PGC   

On Sunday, November 29, 2015 at 6:57:04 AM UTC+1, Jason wrote:
>
> I came across some of these nice videos from an Alan Watts lecture. I 
> think others on this list might also appreciate them.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcPWU59Luoc
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMRrCYPxD0I
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU0PYcCsL6o
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qml1-xzPpxY
>
> Jason
>

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