On 13 Mar 2016, at 20:29, Dan wrote:

I would be interested in any proof relating a formal link between the variational principle of minimum Fisher information and the incompleteness theorems.

I think of Fisher information as a measure of how much any one particular channel of information transmission can possibly describe some source phenomenon. In a sense, the Cramer-Rao bound provides a theoretical limit to how much can be known about the source phenomenon using any one particular information channel. You see why this makes me think of Goedel's theorems?

I am not sure. Gödel's incompleteness is very general and says that machines or theories which are ideally correct (or just consistent) are unable to prove some truth about themselves, like their own consistency. The key along that type of incompleteness is the self- reference phenomenon, with the intensional (modal) view, or without (it shows no machine can prove all true sentences in arithmetic).

May be look at this: "ASYMPTOTIC DENSITY AND COMPUTABLY ENUMERABLE
SETS" by Downey, Jockusch Schupp.

http://www-old.newton.ac.uk/preprints/NI12039.pdf

The idea is to approximate a recursively enumerable (semi-computable) set A by a computable (recursive) set B such that A \ B has a low density, for various notion of density. This use tools coming from self-reference. That might inspires you.

But like I said, this is more elated to simplicity/immunity (Post) than with creativity/productivity (Gödel)

Theories or machine's beliefs are creative, that is recursively enumerable (re), with a complement which is not recursively enumerable, but in some constructive sense: there is a computable function f which for any re set w_i included in the complement can produced a "counterexemple" f(i) belonging to the complement but not in w_i. Such set are called productive, and a set is creative (which is the set view of a Turing Universal machine, by a result by Myhill) if it is re and its complement is productive.

A set A is simple if it is RE and its complement is Immune, which means that there is no RE subsets in the complement. All the w_i attempting to enumerate the complement will cross the set A. This notion can be related to Chaitin incompleteness result, and is more information theoretic like.

You need to study a bit of recursion theory, if you want make a clear relationship between Fisher theorem, and computability.

Any one formal axiomatic system or language which is non- contradictory cannot prove all truths about something.

In the same way

That is what you need to show.



that multi-sensor fusion works around the limitation imposed by Cramer-Rao bound (by increasing Fisher information... how much can be known about the source), multiple programming languages can be combined to prove more truths than any one language alone.


Programming languages do not prove. Theories and theorem provers prove things, but some set of numbers like the set of true arithmetical proposition cannot be enumerated by any machine, nor machine with halting oracle, of totality oracle, etc. Chaitin form of incompleteness is different. It is that a machine cannot prove the randomness of a string more complex than itself. Mathematically it is related to Post simple/immune notions.

Adding new axioms (undecidable sentences) augment the range of provability. In the theoretical abductive inference it is different, by a non union theorem it can be shown that for natural identification criterion two inductive machine are more powerful than one. So again, you might also study "theoretical learning learning". Google on this and name like Gold, Blum, Case & Smith, Royer, etc. There is the book by Weinstein, Stob,

Fisher theorem seems to me far away of both Gödel, and of Post- Chaitin, but nearer to Post and Chaitin than to Gödel. You might search on the name Cristian Calude who wrote interesting papers around this, including a good book. Ah, I found my exemplar: Cristian Calude, information and randomness, an Algorithmic Perspective. A Springer book, 1994.

Bruno




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