OK, Evgenii, I am game.
Do you have any closer(?) idea what *ALIVE* may mean? (and watch out,
the next question maybe about *"ORGANISM") .*

I would not go that deeply as to question a (pure???) religious concept.

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John Mikes

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi <use...@rudnyi.ru> wrote:

> John,
>
> No, I do not know what life is. I guess, nobody does.
>
> From what I have seen recently, I like:
>
> "Life is a pure religious concept, based on delusion that there is
> something in an organism that makes it alive."
>
> Evgenii
>
> Am 14.10.2016 um 21:08 schrieb John Mikes:
>
>> Evgenii,
>>
>> do you have some idea about  "LIFE", not the '*Game *of it'? Are
>>
>> there disclaimers that may lead to a STATE - callable 'life'? I would
>> not rely entirely on the biology, life may be much more and not
>> quite(?) moelcularly bound. How is 'mentality' involved? Changes???
>> (and I mean: self induced ones!) We have a very limited image of
>> Mother Nature. Is 'life' more, or less than our limited knowledge of
>> 'nature'? Please do not forget: I am an agnostic and believe in many
>> many facets of the Entirety we know nothing about, yet supposedly
>> exist beyond our world. Is a 'self-induced change'  L I F E ? How
>> induced?
>>
>> The question is exciting, I would learn more about it.
>>
>> John Mikes
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi <use...@rudnyi.ru>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have listened to Sean Carroll's Big Picture. His world view is
>>> actually similar to the Game of Life, well, the rules are a bit
>>> more complicated. Below is the link to the equation that he
>>> proposes.
>>>
>>> Carroll claims that his equation describes human beings as well. He
>>> takes a compatibilist position in respect to free will: free will
>>> is compatible with the determinism. At the same time, he says that
>>> his equation is the very strong intellectual achievement of the
>>> mankind.
>>>
>>> I thought that it could be possible to invent some sort of the Game
>>> of Life where during the system evolution one gets the rule of the
>>> game printed on the screen. In my view, this should be somewhat
>>> analogous to what Carroll says. Well, it is hard to say in what
>>> form the rules of the game should appear, but this after all gives
>>> some freedom to invent such a game.
>>>
>>> I should mention that I mean nothing fancy. "Explaining" is meant
>>> in pure epiphenomenal fashion: an equation spontaneously appeared
>>> on a sheet of paper, nothing else.
>>>
>>> What do you think? Could it be possible to invent a self-explaining
>>> Game of Life in that sense?
>>>
>>> Evgenii
>>>
>>> P.S. Carroll's Game of Life:
>>>
>>> http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2013/01/04/the-
>>> world-of-everyday-experience-in-one-equation/
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