Mark Buda <her...@acm.org> writes: > Still busy, but things are looking up for finding the time. I'll have > to revisit what I wrote before, though, because some of it was > garbage. Nailed the red state blue state thing, though, even though I > didn't explain adequately.
While I did nail it, I never actually said in the first place. I misremembered that. Or I said it somewhere else, or just thought I did. > I always had a problem with showing my work. Yeah. > On Monday, July 19, 2010 at 9:16:24 AM UTC-4, Mark Buda wrote: > > I agree with pretty much everything you are saying, Jesse; > unfortunately, I don't have the time at the moment to respond > adequately. > > I think it would greatly improve the signal-to-noise ratio on this > list if everybody else kept quiet on this thread until you read my > response to Jesse. Please be patient, I have a lot of stuff to do > today. > > Waiting is. :-) > > -- > Mark Buda <her...@acm.org> > I get my monkeys for nothing and my chimps for free. > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > On Jul 19, 2010 9:04 AM, Jesse Mazer <laserma...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > How long ago did you see them? [...] > As for the psychiatrist and therapist, did you also try to explain > these sorts of grand ideas to them? How did they react? Sort of irrelevant at this point. > Mark, these kinds of sentences and paragraphs are completely > solipsistic. Even if you have some sort of valid insight, you > simply haven't provided enough context and intermediate steps of > your reasoning to make it possible another person could > *understand* why you think, for example, that "our sense of humor > and our mathematical intuition and our genes form an impossible > triangular loop". You're just making a lot of grand pronouncements > whose only purpose seems to be to express how excited you are > about your own brainstorms rather than to communicate with other > human beings. This is, I think, one of the big reasons myself and > others get the sense of a mental disorder from your > posts--disorders like mania and schizophrenia are associated with > losing the ability to (or no longer caring to) consider the the > understanding of other people, to consider what background context > will be shared enough that it doesn't need to be explained and > what context is not shared and *does* need to be explained (for > instance, on this list we can talk of 'quantum immortality' > without explaining what it means, but with most people you'd have > to launch into some background about the many-worlds > interpretation before using the term), in order to communicate in > a way that will make some sense to others. Yes, well, exactly. > Also, in a person with mania at least, I think this kind of > partial mindblindness is related to being over-optimistic about > the likelihood that others have understood/agreed with what you > have said...in the case of the priest, you seem to have taken his > lack of counterarguments as a sort of tacit agreement (or at least > an acknowledgment that he found sense in your arguments), which > may not be true at all. Did you ask him (or others you've talked > to about your ideas) any questions to try to gauge their > understanding of what you were saying? Along the lines of "do you > follow" or "does this make sense to you"? No, of course not. If I was not so self-absorbed that I bothered to ask the question, I was certainly so self-absorbed that I ignored the answer. > > Back to the point. We don't have instincts to tell us how to > care for our > > young. We rely on culture for that. And culture is still really, > really > > young. The memes are just getting started! That's it! Richard > Dawkins is > > God, then, because he is the source of the idea of the meme. > Whee! What a > > marvelous yet annoying thing God hath made. Can't wait to see > what's next. > > Another example of the same solipsistic communication style here. > *Why* does Richard Dawkin's invention of the concept of the meme > make him "God"? It's a huge leap of logic and once again you seem > to be too excited by your insight to bother with filling in any of > the intermediate reasoning that might make this paragraph > meaningful to anyone but yourself (and it doesn't really seem like > you were thinking of the problem of whether others would > understand when you wrote it). Yeah. Anyway, sorry about the delay. Some things had to be worked out. I'm hoping to get started on explaining it soon. It really doesn't matter, since, if I'm right, you're going to figure it out anyway. Those of you who aren't philosophical zombies, anyway. You know who you are. -- Mark Buda <her...@acm.org> I get my monkeys for nothing and my chimps for free. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
