On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:

> ​
> ​>>​
> A
> rithmetical truth
> ​ is not a being (superhuman or otherwise),
>
> ​> ​
> Not a being?
>

​That is correct the multiplication table is not a being, and this must be
the only place in the world where such a bland statement is considered
controversial. ​


> ​> > ​
> arithmetical truth
> ​
> is not a spirit
>
> ​> ​
> Depends what you mean by spirit
>

​And that depends on what you mean by "mean".​

​>>​
>> You have no evidence that mathematics is more fundamental than physics.
>> None,
>> ​
>>
>
>
> ​I have better: a proof that if we are machine, then physics is a
> modality on the arithmetical truth.
>

​Like hell you have!​


​>> ​
> What is indispensable ​is that anything that deserves the label "God" must
> be a intelligent conscious omniscient omnipotent *BEING*
>

​> ​
> Then all intellectual christians have stopped to believe in God after
> St-Thomas,
>

​If so then a very important question must be asked, how many ​

​ "intellectual Christians" are on planet Earth today? Five? Six?

​> ​
> who explained that omniscient and omnipotent are contradictory
>

​Obviously it's contradictory, ​
​but that doesn't mean there are not billions of people who passionately
believe it nevertheless. I never said Theology was logical or anywhere
close to it.

​> ​
> You can define God by the fundamental reality
>

​That's true,  you can try to get people to change the meaning of a word,
but doing so would not be a exercise in philosophy or even theology, it
would just be a exercise in vocabulary. And the only reason for doing so
would be if you were too cowardly to say "I don't believe in God". So now
that "God" just means "stuff" you can ​
​proudly say "I believe in God" even if all you mean is "I believe in
stuff". It all seems like a pretty stupid word game to me.

John K Clark ​

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