Philip Benjamin <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [jcs-online] "Bacteria with a nervous system, consciousness"? What would be the lowest social animals with a nervous system, consciousness?
Subject: Re: [jcs-online] "Bacteria with a nervous system, consciousness"? What would be the lowest social animals with a nervous system, consciousness? [Henry Rivera] I believe it's in this talk that Stuart Hameroff discusses the difficulty of defining where to draw the line with consciousness with respect less complex life forms. Also I think he addresses the idea that our nervous system evolved to facilitate locomotion: https://youtu.be/JzBsEfR0iYc If that isn't covered or covered much in that talk, you can certainly hear about this hypothesis here: https://www.ted.com/talks/daniel_wolpert_the_real_reason_for_brains<https://www.ted.com/talks/daniel_wolpert_the_real_reason_for_brains/up-next> On Jul 18, 2017, at 4:43 PM, Tech Monk [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [jcs-online] <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: you constantly read/hear expression such as "bacteria 'can tell', 'know' when it is fed glucose or lactose" ... of course this is crazy, pretentiously poetic/Anthropomorphic talk, but I wonder at which point in their evolutionary development have different branches been endowed with some form of consciousness (neuronal cells) [Philip Benjamin] Kurt Forrer sums up the view of academedia paganism on Consciousness thus: "It is the sine qua non of existence. .....This is in perfect agreement with quantum mechanics, which states that ‘energy’, typified by an interactive dualism, only ‘coalesces’ to matter as we focus on it. Consciousness is the sine qua non of existence". The question of "defining where to draw the line with consciousness" is an unnecessary distortion of the rational question of defining where to draw the line with life in the universe. No life, no consciousness. There is absolutely no evidence of life in a rock and therefore a "conscious rock" is an absurdity necessitated by the mystic kinship of Panpsychism to primitive pantheism , all because of the circular metaphysical reasoning that the impersonal, eternal and aseitous consciousness collapses wave-function and the wave-function collapse causes consciousness". It is a glorified version of Eastern Brahman/Atman and Yin/Yang view of the universe. The Western Personal, "Uncaused First Cause" as the sine qua non of existence is more rational and evidential. Evidentialist Philip Benjamin, DLT (Dark/Light Twins) Note: Academedia (acade-media): The monstrous double headed hybrid of a small minority of all academics including seminarians and a large majority of all media including the Hollywood, with no-question-asked Marxist-like authoritarianism as their modus operandi. Based on the works of Rabbi Daniel Lapin, Ben Stein, Victor Mordecai, ex-Marxist David Horwitz Upon decoupling, the unenergized (unregenerated), non-entropic bio dark-matter bodies co-created at the moment of conception will be lost in their abodes of the dark-matter realms (black holes), by their own willful choice. Adapted from "Ten Implications of Bio Dark-Matter Chemistry" and "Spiritual Body or Physical Spirit" by Philip Benjamin PhD MSc MA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
