On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>
wrote:

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> If you have some time/patience, let me know what you think of my arguments
> here:
> https://arxiv.org/abs/1609.02009
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Telmo,

Interesting read.

In general I have a lot of sympathy for this view.

I think there may be an inverse relationship between intelligence and
confidence in actions.  That is, the more intelligence the super
intelligence becomes, the less certain it may be about whether a given
course of action is correct, and this could lead to a paralysis of sorts.

I've also read a few science fiction stories where upon being uploaded,
people modify their brains to activate their pleasure centers and
effectively become zombies thereafter.  I wonder though, and perhaps this
relates to the nature of possible conscious experiences, would a
super-intelligence prefer to exist and continually stimulate its utility
function, or would it be equally (or more?) happy to define its utility
function as being maximized by not existing and then kill itself?  E.g.
with the choice between an eternal heroine trip/orgasm vs. suicide, what
would a rational agent choose?

Another question, what if a super intelligence agreed with the ideas
expressed in the one-self paper and it determined its self interest extends
to all conscious beings. Would it, acting under such a belief, seek to help
(and not modify) existing conscious life realize their utility functions,
or would it instead decide to modify the utility functions of those other
conscious life forms it has the power to change? Would it modify their
utility functions to seek to stop existing and then kill them?  If it does
so instantaneously, it doesn't seem like it really ever modified their
utility functions in the first place and instead of assisting their
suicides, is murdering them.

It seem to me, that under computationalism, realizing conscious states
requires computation, and in our universe computation requires time.
Therefore maximizing the types and kinds of conscious states one wants to
exist requires persistence over time.  I think for a conscious super
intelligence, utility functions must somehow be based of the perceived
utility of various conscious experiences.  Ceasing to exist (or ceasing to
realize new conscious states) serves only to eliminate your own
contribution of experiences to the total set of experiences that exist.
Therefore the super intelligence that kills itself, is in effect, deciding
a preference for the other already extant conscious life forms and their
experiences over its own.

If you look at everything that motivates all human endeavors, it is
ultimately, all about realizing and maximizing good experiences while
avoiding and minimizing bad experiences.

Another consideration is that so long as the ratio of superintelligences
that clone themselves remains greater than the ratio of superintelligences
that modify their utility function to become inert (over some period of
time) remains greater than 1, it seems they will be subject to darwinian
forces and will be selected for those with lower rates of modifying their
utility function to become inert.

Overall your paper leads to a great number of interesting topics that
deserve further exploration. Thanks for sharing it.

Jason

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