On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 3:55 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

​> ​
> Is there a non-constructive way to determine whether an axiomatic system
> (axioms+inference rules) must be Goedel incomplete?  Must one show that
> arithmetic is a model or is there some simpler method?

axiomatic system
powerful enough to do arithmetic (and its not much use if it isn't) can't
be both self consistent (that is to say there is not a proof
​in the system​
 that something is true and also a proof that the same thing is false) and
​ (there are true statements that have no proof).
 And if
​the system​
 is self consistent there is no way to prove it is so while remaining in
the system.

 ​John K Clark​

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