On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 4:23:23 AM UTC-5, agrays...@gmail.com wrote:
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> On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 3:37:41 AM UTC-5, agrays...@gmail.com wrote:
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>> On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 at 9:18:12 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
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>>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 7:25 PM, <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> *​> ​You and other skeptics should be demanding release of material from 
>>>> which Project Mogul balloons were made,*
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>>>  ​We already know what they were make of, surplus junk from a toy 
>>> company. 
>>> ​From: 
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>>> http://muller.lbl.gov/teaching/physics10/Roswell/USMogulReport.html
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>>> ​"
>>> *One of the most puzzling aspects of the reports that a "UFO" crashed 
>>> near Corona in 1947 were the later descriptions of "hieroglyphic-like" 
>>> characters by seemingly reliable, firsthand witnesses. Research has 
>>> revealed that the debris found on the ranch and displayed in General 
>>> Ramey's office probably did have strange characters. These, however, were 
>>> not hieroglyphics, but figures printed on the pinkish-purple tape used to 
>>> construct the radar targets used by the NYU group.*
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>>> *The witnesses have recalled small pink/purple "flowers" that appeared 
>>> to be some sort of writing that couldn't be deciphered. These figures were 
>>> printed on tape that sealed the seams of the of the radar target. The radar 
>>> targets, sometimes called corner reflectors, had been manufactured during 
>>> or shortly after World War II, and due to shortages, the manufacturer, a 
>>> toy company, used whatever resources were available. This toy company used 
>>> plastic tape with pink/purple flowers and geometric designs in the 
>>> construction of its toys and, in a time of shortage, used it on the 
>>> government contract for the corner reflectors.*
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>>> *Allegations have also been made that the debris displayed to the press 
>>> on July 8 and subsequently photographed was not the original wreckage; 
>>> i.e., a switch had occurred sometime after the debris left Roswell 
>>> AAF.​ However, statements made by Moore and Trakowski attested that the 
>>> corner reflectors they launched during that period had the same flowers and 
>>> figures that were later reported by Marcel, Cavitt, and Brazel as being on 
>>> the debris found on the Foster ranch in Corona.*
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>>> *In fact, Trakowski distinctly remembered the figures on the tape 
>>> because, when the targets first were produced, much fanfare was made over 
>>> the use of a toy manufacturer for production. He related that a fellow 
>>> USAAF officer, John E. Peterson, monitored the procurement of the targets 
>>> and "thought it was the biggest joke in the world that they had to go to a 
>>> toy manufacturer" to make the radar targets and an "even a bigger joke 
>>> when. the reflecting material on the balsa frames was some kind of a 
>>> pinkish purple tape with hearts and flowers​"*
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>> *I recall this story. AG *
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> *What's lacking is a sample of the material from which the balloons were 
> made, to compare with alleged properties reported by Roswell witnesses. AG *
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>>>> *​> ​if for no other reason than to finally put the Roswell crash 
>>>> scenario to bed.*
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>>> ​Crackpot conspiracy can never EVER be put to bed, they were not created 
>>> by logic so logic can not destroy them. 
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>> *You have a shallow understanding of history. For every myth, illusion, 
>> or delusion, there's always some seminal logic or comprehensible 
>> misunderstanding at its root. AG *
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> *For example, the myth of the risen savior, Jesus, likely had its origin 
> in the fact that the women found the tomb empty. AG*
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*While we're on the subject, IMO the belief in the risen savior originated 
from a higher level of rationality -- the fact of the empty tomb -- than 
your belief that everything that's possible to happen, must happen. AG *

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>>> John K Clark ​
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