On 3/2/2018 11:05 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
It doesn't miss it anymore than your theory. You just postulate that
consciousness corresponds to some theorems about self-reference.
Not at all. I postulate only that consciousness is true for the
machine I will be after the transplant made at the right level of
Then I study what *any* sound machine can prove about itself at its
correct level of description.
But why should that have anything to do with its perception of self.
Consciousness does not correspond to some theorem of self-reference,
it is just that the machine point on something which are true for
them, non doubtable, yet non provable, nor even definable,
You say it does not correspond to some theorem of self-reference, but
then you imply it corresponds to deriving a Goedel sentence about
themselves. That's non doubtable but non provable. But it's also
nothing to do with human consciousness. I only know very few humans are
even aware of what a Goedel sentence is.
except by using approximation of truth, or the metatheories similar to
the one by Theaetetus.
That "approximation of truth" is a completely different attribute than
"correspondence with facts".
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