On 5/3/2018 4:51 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote:
From: *Brent Meeker* <[email protected]>

On 5/3/2018 4:03 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote:
The problem, of course, is that this unitary operator is formed in the multiverse, so to form its inverse we have to have access to the other worlds of the multiverse. And this is impossible because of the linearity of the SE. So although the mathematics of unitary transformations is perfectly reversible, measurements are not reversible in principle in the one world we find ourselves to inhabit.

I think we need a more precise term than "in principle" which could confuesed with "mathematically". You really mean reversal is /nomologically/ impossible even though it's /mathematically/ reversible.  It's more impossible that /FAPP/ or /statistically/ but not /logically/ impossible.  :-)

Not doable "in principle" just means that there is no conceivable way in which it could be done.

Well maybe it's that I speak American English instead of Aussie; but "in principle" leaves me wondering which principle: logically, mathematical, physical, economic,...

Brent

It is not just a matter of difficulty, or that it would take longer than the lifetime of the universe. It is actually impossible. Quantum mechanics does not imply that all things that are logically possible are nomologically possible, or could be achieved in practice.  That is why Saibal's claim that there exists a unitary operator that does what he wants is rather empty -- there are an infinite number of unitary operators that are not realizable in practice. And this limitation is a limitation "in principle".

Bruce


So even Deutsch's quantum brain is likely to run into difficulties, since it has to communicate with the real world.

That's a general problem with quantum computers; they need to decohere  produce a result.  I think  Saibal Mitra wrote a paper on this point.

Brent

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