On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 1:16 AM <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've been looking at the Wiki article on this topic. I find that I really
> don't understand what it is, or why it's important. Maybe a few succinct
> words from the usual suspects can be of help. TIA.
>
>
>

Bruno provided a great definition and background of the Church-Turing
Thesis. I will try to answer why it is important and comes up often in our
discussion.


The Church-Turing thesis says that anything that is computable is
computable by any computer.  In other words, there is nothing that the
computer in your cell phone can't compute, that your laptop or that a super
computer (or even a quantum computer) can.  It just comes down to having
enough time and memory.

This is why you don't need to buy a new phone with new hardware every time
you want to install a new app.  Regardless of the type of CPU in your
phone, it can be extended in its power of what it might compute only given
some new software.  It is in this sense that computers are "Universal",
they are universal in the same sense that of a universal remote, or in the
sense that a record player is a universal sound imitating device.  A record
player might emulate the sounds of an orchestra, Britney Spears, whale
songs, etc., all it needs is the appropriate record and it can produce the
sound.

In the same sense, all a Turing Machine (computer) needs to imitate (or
emulate) the right program or function is the right software.  Because of
this, anything that can be described in software, be it a brain emulation,
an AI, a virtual environment, a virtual machine or operating system, can
never know what hardware is running it, because the Church-Turing thesis
says that any computer is capable of running it.

This is why if consciousness is computable (the computational theory of
mind) we cannot know what is computing us (e.g. we could be in a matrix
type simulation for all we know).  The other implication is that if
computations exist in mathematics (and they do), then we exist within
mathematics.  Mathematics (or at least the part necessary to describe
computations) becomes the fundamental science of what we experience and
what is possible to experience or what we may predict about our future
experiences (physics).


Jason

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