On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 7:16:51 PM UTC, Terren Suydam wrote: > > I'm fairly surprised you're not more sympathetic to Bruno's ideas in light > of this. What could it mean for a universe to split if the physical is > primary? >
*The advocates of MWI can't explain the splitting as a physical process. Like Clark, they rely completely on the mathematics, even though, as I pointed out exhaustively, mathematics sometimes give specious solutions -- such as plane waves and advanced waves in classical E&M. AG* > > I'm sympathetic to AG's revulsion of the universe splitting into infinite > branches. The one thing that makes MWI palatable to me is the idea that the > platonic (which is easier to see as infinite) is primary. All possible > universal splits already exist in platonia (because all possible > computations exist there) - our path along a particular trace in platonia > is analogous to our traveling through time in a block universe. > > Terren > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 11:55 AM John Clark <johnk...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 10:28 PM, <agrays...@gmail.com <javascript:>> >> wrote: >> >> >>> > >>> *Whether MWI says anything or not about measurement is irrelevant. >>> *Measurement >>> exists in Copenhagen and MWI, >>> >> >> Copenhagen has never explained exactly what a "measurement" is, MWI says >> a measurement is no different from any other sort of interaction. To the >> MWI it makes no difference if a photon hits a photographic plate or a brick >> wall because in both cases there was a interaction and something changed >> and so the universe split; in one universe the photon hits a obstacle and >> is destroyed and in the other universe there was no obstacle and the photon >> survives and continues into infinite space. But Copenhagen says >> measurement is a very special but vaguely specified sort of interaction >> with all sorts vaguely specified powers. >> >> John K Clark >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com >> <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
