Bruno Marcha wrote:

>>Bruno, that's my definition but think long and hard before you agree with
>> it because if you still agree with it in your next post I give you fair
>> warning my next question to you will be "How many cities will the Helsinki
>> man see?”.
>
>
> *> Only one, from its first person view.*
>

So you demand that the first person view of the Moscow man tomorrow predict
today what will happen to him despite the fact that today the first person
view of the Moscow man tomorrow *DOES NOT EXIST*! There is one property
that every good oracle needs, and that is the property of existence, and
the first person Moscow man of tomorrow doesn't have it in Helsinki today.

I did warn you that you needed to think long and hard.


> > *We need to ask the H-guy reconstitute in each city*[...]
>

Nobody can ask the H-guy anything unless yesterday before any of this
started everybody agreed on exactly what "the H-guy" means, I have provided
a clear unambiguous definition of that term but you have not.


> > *and indeed, they both see one city*,
>

Asking "How many cities do you see?" would be a dumb question to ask. What
you should ask is "Given our predetermined agreement about what the term
means made before anybody was copied how many cities do you think the H-guy
ended up seeing?". Depending on what the agreement was the correct answer
could be zero or two or there was no agreement and thus there was no answer
because there was no question, there was only gibberish.

John K Clark


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