> On 4 Dec 2018, at 06:07, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
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> 
> On 12/3/2018 5:47 PM, Mason Green wrote:
>> Here’s a recent editorial I found in the magazine arguing against 
>> Many-Worlds on the grounds that it denies the reality of experience or the 
>> self. 
>> (https://www.quantamagazine.org/why-the-many-worlds-interpretation-of-quantum-mechanics-has-many-problems-20181018/)
>> 
>> Well, if we don’t want many-worlds or subjectivism, than the only other 
>> option looks like it’d be to modify QM itself. Some form of digital physics 
>> might work, otherwise we could have objective collapse (either random, or 
>> else there’s something/someone outside the universe choosing which path the 
>> universe follows).
> 
> Remember, QM is not compatible with general relativity.  It is often assumed 
> that the problem is finding a quantum theory of spacetime. But the long 
> sought theory may also require some modification of QM or otherwise throw 
> light on the measurement problem.  For example, Penrose's gravitationally 
> induced collapse might work out.

This, at least, postulates explicitly non-mechanism, which makes sense of its 
materialism.

Unfortunately Penrose’s motivation from Gödel is invalid (and can be seen as a 
confusion between []p and []p & p).

I am a priori open to his (non mechanist) theory of gravitation induced 
collapse, except I still don’t make much sense of it (maybe due to my 
incompetence).

Bruno



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