> On 5 Dec 2018, at 20:00, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > "How many axioms would be needed [to model nature]?...if we look at the > universe in totality and not bracket any subset of phenomena, the mathematics > we would need would have no axioms at all.... It is only the way we look at > the universe that gives us the illusion of structure.”
With no axioms, everything becomes a model, and the theory becomes trivial. You need the axioms of arithmetic, or anything Turing equivalent, at the least. Then the existence of dreams becomes a theorem (either with mechanism, or with some computationalist definition of dream) and physics is explained, or should be explained, in term of computations’ statistics (structured by self-reference). You need arithmetic to prove the existence of chaos, for example. Bruno > > Chaos Makes the Multiverse Unnecessary > by Noson S. Yanofsky > November 29, 2018 > [ > http://nautil.us/issue/66/clockwork/chaos-makes-the-multiverse-unnecessary-rp > ] > Science predicts only the predictable, ignoring most of our chaotic universe. > > Noson S. Yanofsky is a professor of computer science at Brooklyn College of > The City University of New York. > [ http://www.sci.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~noson/ ] > > - pt > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

