> On 5 Dec 2018, at 20:00, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> "How many axioms would be needed [to model nature]?...if we look at the 
> universe in totality and not bracket any subset of phenomena, the mathematics 
> we would need would have no axioms at all.... It is only the way we look at 
> the universe that gives us the illusion of structure.”


With no axioms, everything becomes a model, and the theory becomes trivial. You 
need the axioms of arithmetic, or anything Turing equivalent, at the least. 
Then the existence of dreams becomes a theorem (either with mechanism, or with 
some computationalist definition of dream) and physics is explained, or should 
be explained, in term of computations’ statistics (structured by 
self-reference). You need arithmetic to prove the existence of chaos, for 
example.

Bruno




> 
> Chaos Makes the Multiverse Unnecessary
> by Noson S. Yanofsky
> November 29, 2018
> [ 
> http://nautil.us/issue/66/clockwork/chaos-makes-the-multiverse-unnecessary-rp 
> ]
> Science predicts only the predictable, ignoring most of our chaotic universe.
> 
> Noson S. Yanofsky is a professor of computer science at Brooklyn College of 
> The City University of New York.
> [ http://www.sci.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~noson/ ]
> 
> - pt
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