On 2/10/2019 10:47 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 04:24:40PM -0800, Brent Meeker wrote:

On 2/10/2019 3:34 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
9. Consciousness began when human culture became advanced, around 3000
years ago (Julian Jaynes).
The date more usually given is 40,000 years bp. There was an explosion
of advanced culture that occurred at that time. Steven Pinker promotes
this idea ("the brain's big bang") IIRC.


As I recall, Jaynes put it at the beginning of trade between tribes.  Because when you're bargaining you have to keep your thoughts to yourself and learn to lie.

Brent

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