On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 5:15:17 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
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> On 2/28/2019 3:00 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
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> On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 4:34:54 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: 
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>> On 2/28/2019 2:14 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
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>> On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 3:48:04 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: 
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>>> On 2/28/2019 1:17 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
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>>> The best current philosopher of (and writer about) consciousness is *Galen 
>>> Strawson*. 
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>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galen_Strawson
>>> https://sites.google.com/site/galenstrawson/
>>> https://liberalarts.utexas.edu/philosophy/faculty/profile.php?id=gs24429
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>>> There is a lot of his material (PDFs, articles, videos, etc.) freely 
>>> available online.
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>>> The main word that is synonymous with *consciousness *is *experience*.
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>>> Which is something bacteria and plants and my thermostat have...and 
>>> ability to detect and react to the environment based on internal states.
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>> Galen is a (type of) micropsychist.
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>> But the point is we don't need a philosopher to explain that level of 
>> consciousness to us.  It's already at the level of engineering.  If 
>> Strawson is going to provide any useful explanations of consciousness he 
>> should study machine learning...it's getting close to engineering 
>> consciousness at the next higher level.
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>> Brent
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> It won't be accomplished via certain types of engineering, like 
> "information network" approaches (IIT [ 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_information_theory ]) but 
> potentially could with a "synthetic" approach that *combines networks 
> with synthetic biology*. Something along these lines is the "fusion" idea 
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> I don't know why IIT is even discussed.  Aaronson pretty well shot it down.
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> My son may get a chance to work on the Deepmind team.  What kind of brain 
> cells would you suggest he sprinkle on the CPUs?
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> Brent
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Like The Graduate's "plastics", today, "polymers".


Biomaterials for the central nervous system
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2475552/

Scientists Have Built Artificial Neurons That Fully Mimic Human Brain Cells
https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-build-an-artificial-neuron-that-fully-mimics-a-human-brain-cell

Scientists develop promising new type of polymer
https://phys.org/news/2019-01-scientists-polymers.html

Synthetic Glycopolymers for Highly Efficient Differentiation of Embryonic 
Stem Cells into Neurons: Lipo- or Not?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28287262

Elastic materials for tissue engineering applications: Natural, synthetic, 
and hybrid polymers
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S174270611830494X

Biomaterials for Scaffolds: Synthetic Polymers
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/286340849_Biomaterials_for_Scaffolds_Synthetic_Polymers
 

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