> On 1 Mar 2019, at 09:28, Philip Thrift <cloudver...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 2:05:03 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 5:15:17 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > On 2/28/2019 3:00 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 4:34:54 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> On 2/28/2019 2:14 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 3:48:04 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 2/28/2019 1:17 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> The best current philosopher of (and writer about) consciousness is Galen >>>> Strawson. >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galen_Strawson >>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galen_Strawson> >>>> https://sites.google.com/site/galenstrawson/ >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/galenstrawson/> >>>> https://liberalarts.utexas.edu/philosophy/faculty/profile.php?id=gs24429 >>>> <https://liberalarts.utexas.edu/philosophy/faculty/profile.php?id=gs24429> >>>> >>>> There is a lot of his material (PDFs, articles, videos, etc.) freely >>>> available online. >>>> >>>> The main word that is synonymous with consciousness is experience. >>> >>> Which is something bacteria and plants and my thermostat have...and ability >>> to detect and react to the environment based on internal states. >>> >>> Brent >>> >>> >>> >>> Galen is a (type of) micropsychist. >> >> But the point is we don't need a philosopher to explain that level of >> consciousness to us. It's already at the level of engineering. If Strawson >> is going to provide any useful explanations of consciousness he should study >> machine learning...it's getting close to engineering consciousness at the >> next higher level. >> >> Brent >> >> It won't be accomplished via certain types of engineering, like "information >> network" approaches (IIT [ >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_information_theory >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_information_theory> ]) but >> potentially could with a "synthetic" approach that combines networks with >> synthetic biology. Something along these lines is the "fusion" idea proposed >> by > > I don't know why IIT is even discussed. Aaronson pretty well shot it down. > > My son may get a chance to work on the Deepmind team. What kind of brain > cells would you suggest he sprinkle on the CPUs? > > Brent > > > Like The Graduate's "plastics", today, "polymers". > > > Biomaterials for the central nervous system > https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2475552/ > <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2475552/> > > Scientists Have Built Artificial Neurons That Fully Mimic Human Brain Cells > https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-build-an-artificial-neuron-that-fully-mimics-a-human-brain-cell > > <https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-build-an-artificial-neuron-that-fully-mimics-a-human-brain-cell> > > Scientists develop promising new type of polymer > https://phys.org/news/2019-01-scientists-polymers.html > <https://phys.org/news/2019-01-scientists-polymers.html> > > Synthetic Glycopolymers for Highly Efficient Differentiation of Embryonic > Stem Cells into Neurons: Lipo- or Not? > https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28287262 > <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28287262> > > Elastic materials for tissue engineering applications: Natural, synthetic, > and hybrid polymers > https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S174270611830494X > <https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S174270611830494X> > > Biomaterials for Scaffolds: Synthetic Polymers > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/286340849_Biomaterials_for_Scaffolds_Synthetic_Polymers > > <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/286340849_Biomaterials_for_Scaffolds_Synthetic_Polymers> > > > > Biosynthetic Polymers as Functional Materials > https://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/acs.macromol.6b00439
You might be interested by this quite remarkable news: a 8 letters synthetic DNA, which seems to work well. If that is true, it really suggests that we all come from one bacteria, I think. It is amazing that all life use only the same 4 letters coding (A, T, G, C). https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00650-8 Bruno > > - pt > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
