Le jeu. 25 avr. 2019 à 17:44, <[email protected]> a écrit : > > > On Thursday, April 25, 2019 at 10:21:04 AM UTC-5, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> >> >> >> Le jeu. 25 avr. 2019 à 16:50, <[email protected]> a écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, April 25, 2019 at 8:34:30 AM UTC-5, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Le jeu. 25 avr. 2019 à 15:23, <[email protected]> a écrit : >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, April 25, 2019 at 1:18:44 AM UTC-5, stathisp wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 at 2:42 pm, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> But it happens all the time. How do you think you move your body if >>>>>>> not by top-down influence in levels from consciousness ? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> At the molecular level, if this were true, we would see miracles >>>>>> happening, like a table levitating without any applied force. No such >>>>>> thing >>>>>> has ever been observed. Neurons and muscle cells only fire according to >>>>>> the >>>>>> laws of physics. If you documented an example of a miracle in the brain >>>>>> you >>>>>> would overthrow science and be famous. >>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> Stathis Papaioannou >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The "laws of physics" are not a static thing, in terms of history. One >>>>> can say the "laws of physics" are in 2019 "The Standard Model" (about 40 >>>>> years old now) and maybe some others like electromagnetism. Before 1900 >>>>> there was no quantum mechanics that was a part of "laws of physics". There >>>>> are also chemical and neurobiological "laws" that have become a part of >>>>> science that also address "neurons and other cells". >>>>> >>>>> The "laws of physics" may be different in 2119 than in 2019. What we >>>>> "list" as "laws of physics" changes over time. >>>>> >>>> >>>> It does change to explain experimental data not explained by current >>>> theories.... Here there should be experiment which put evidence to >>>> extraordinary behavior not explained/explainable by current theories. >>>> >>>> If you can provide no test, and all the tests we do are explainable by >>>> current theories, why the need to invoke invisible horses ? >>>> >>>> Quentin >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> There is data from astronomy that involves what people have called "dark >>> matter". There is no theory yet that physicists have rallied around to >>> "explain" this data. >>> >> >> So that means there is a need for a new or modified theory. >> >> >>> Can you derive today a dark-matter theory from The Standard Model + >>> General Relativity? >>> >> >> No, so what ? I just said theories change to explain new datas or they >> propose test that gives rise to new results. If you invoke invisible horses >> and those horses do not explain better than competing existing theories >> without those invisible entities, that theory seems useless, no better than >> god did it. >> >> Quentin >> >>> >>> What is this theory? Is it written down in arXiv somewhere? >>> >>> - pt >>> >>> >>> > > > > Sometimes theories do more than merely "change". There may be a radically > new theory that is proposed. >
Did I say otherwise ? where ? > Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity are more than a "change" of the > old theories. > > BTW, There could be invisible horses involved ... > Yes there could be ... but not if they explain *nothing more* and no better than existing competing theories which do not involves those invisible horses... Occam's razor. > > *Trojan-horse particle invariance: The impact on nuclear astrophysics* > - https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.4874070 > > - pt > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
