On 5/17/2019 3:35 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

It's a matter of equivocating on "the natural numbers".  If you regard them as a theory of things, the way you learn them at your mother's knee, then there are objective truths "Two garbanzo beans plus two chick peas make four beans." the way "Snow is white."  But if you want to evaluate the truth of "2+2=4" that's a  proposition in arithmetic.  If it's PA then it's true in every model because it's a theorem.  But when you say there are true statements of arithmetic that aren't provable in PA, what they are depends on the model.

Hmm… No.

Are you saying that non-standard models of arithmetic don't assign different truth values to some propositions?

Brent

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