When one observes a real phenomenon, then one can create (again
falsifiable) theories to explain the phenomenon. Telepathy is not such.
On 5/26/2019 3:59 PM, howardmarks wrote:
Endless experiments of what you suggest about
unification/telepathy/precognition/etc. together/separate/etc. has
been tested and tested and tested, under all sorts of circumstances
under all conditions thinkable. My father was a lifelong believer
things like telepathy and failure to confirm his beliefs didn't deter
him from believing, even though he was a good-thinking electronic
engineer with >12 patents (you can look him up in USPTO.gov , Meyer
Marks, before year 1975).
_
Phenomenology infers that there is a phenomenon_, and in the case of
telepathy and precognition, no phenomena can be demonstrated, whether
"unified" with emotion/communication etc., when falsifiable
experiments show every claim to be a "lookalike," such as conjuring
(magician's tricks), fakers like Uri Geller, random chance, liars,
clever opportunity seekers, coincidences, or flat misinterpretations,
etc. The total failure of precognition hotlines demonstrate that
precognition is unlikely to be a phenomenon - with a score of zero
hits in probably millions of submissions over maybe 20 years.
There are "treasure chests" of experiments, extremely thoroughly
investigated and documented by thousands of investigators for
centuries, including your suggested "unification." Look up the files
in the archives of randi.org , Dr Shermer's Skeptical Inquirer, Joseph
Nichol's work, CSICOP (now CSI, Committee for skeptical Inquiry) and a
dozen more, most discoverable with web searching. Randi has an
excellent library in Florida that should be accessible for research.
Cosmin, your example of your girlfriend and you "connecting" thru
facebook fails your own criteria, point 1:/ 1) Such precise
sharable details./
The only way to reconcile the failure to be specific - is to "believe
anyway."
Cheers! Howard Marks
On 5/26/2019 1:20 PM, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote:
What ? You didn't realize this yet ? See ? This is why theories are
lacking (for telepathy, and consciousness generally), because people
simply fail to see some elements of phenomenology. If people fail to
see that consciousness is unified, they will search explanations for
telepathy in terms of "message transmission", which of course they
will fail. If people on the other hand notice that consciousness
works by unifications, they will start to search explanations for
telepathy in terms of unifications, and probably they will have more
luck. So the whole problem with theories of consciousness is not that
consciousness is "mysterious", is just that people fail to see key
aspects of phenomenology. Once those aspects are spotted, theories
will follow at once.
Now, the problem is: How are those elements of phenomenology to be
observed ? From my own thinking experience, the central element is
honesty. Honesty is much more important than intelligence of theories
learned by heart in schools, etc. If you are looking at consciousness
in an honest way, chances are you will spot lots of things and you
will be able to formulate theories. Otherwise, if you just want
social status (i.e. get a phd from Oxford, etc.) then good luck!
Solving consciousness is not for you.
On Sunday, 26 May 2019 16:59:34 UTC+3, John Clark wrote:
> /Consciousness works by unification:/
How nice for consciousness.
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