On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 11:53 PM 'Brent Meeker' < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> I don't understand how "...produce a race of beings on planet Earth that > always made *the wrong decisions* whenever they performed quantum reality > experiments and thus were always fooled about the nature of the world." > follows? When Aspect does his experiments his actions are determined > Aspect's actions were determined? When Aspect wrote up his exparament he said the angle chosen to turn his polarizer to was chosen at "random" and after the phonon was created, but if the universe is deterministic then randomness, an event without a cause, does not exist. Superdeterminism says if his polarizer had been turned to a angle different from the one that was chosen *randomly" Aspect would have obtained very different results from his exparament; but there was no way Aspect could have moved his polarizer to anything other than the angle he actually did because everything is deterministic and because the universe knew 13.8 billion years ago that Aspect would one day perform the exparament and so conspired to set the initial condition such that there was only one way he could "randomly" rotate the polarizer. And that one way would mislead us. If superdeterminism is true it would destroy the very foundation of the scientific method because science assumes the experimentalist can set up his instruments in any way he wishes. Even the pure theorist would not be immune, there may be a very simple theory that would beautifully explain everything in the physical world, but the universe conspired 13.8 billion years ago to make sure that the neurons in theorist's heads would never form a pattern that could produce such a theory. But if the scientific method is pure bunk then it's hard to understand how it could have been so successful up to now... unless ... *unless it's all part of the universe's grand conspiracy to make fools out of us all !!!* But now it's time to put on my tinfoil hat to keep the martians from controlling my mind. > > *> t'Hooft just argued that somewhere in far past, near the Big Bang, > those two light sources were close enough together to interact and to be > entangled, so now they constitute a non-local hidden variable. * > I grant you that idea isn't as crazy as superdeterminism but it would seem to imply that to understand anything you must first understand everything. Science works because we can divide things up, we come to understand pretty well one tiny bit of the world and then we move on to the next tiny bit. We certainly don't know everything but we do know some things. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv14%2B5W3gqNsVsxx1Ds65L%3DxFGT5VjVfp-RhHKGP%3DoSpTg%40mail.gmail.com.
