> On 23 Jun 2019, at 01:36, spudboy100 via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > If God does not exist, or does exist in a fashion we cannot grasp, or is 3 > people/entities. or is Hindu and many many-we don't get a choice, and nobody > asked us to vote. If you want to honor God, help somebody out > (materialism!)..
Why honour God? Why worship God? For a platonism, God is the truth we search, the truth which remains when the lies dies out. To honour truth? If this means to stop lying, that could be nice, and very useful to help everybody out. Bruno > > "But don't it make you want to rock and roll > All night long > Mohammed's Radio > I heard somebody singing sweet and soulful > On the radio, Mohammed's Radio > You know, the Sheriff's got his problems too > He will surely take them out on you > In walked the village idiot and his face was all aglow > He's been up all night listening to Mohammed's Radio" > Warren Zevon,, Mohammad's Radio 1976 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> > To: everything-list <[email protected]> > Sent: Fri, Jun 21, 2019 7:33 am > Subject: Re: Huh? (was Allah nonsense) > > >> On 20 Jun 2019, at 20:23, Lawrence Crowell <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:37:19 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 20 Jun 2019, at 14:05, John Clark <[email protected] <>> wrote: >>> >>> Bruno Marchal Wrote: >>> >>> > Jesus (which I think has never claim to be literally a god). >>> >>> What are you talking about? Jesus not only claimed to be a god he claimed >>> to be THE God, son of the Father and partner (or something) of the Holy >>> Ghost which were all part of the Holy Trinity. You must have heard of the >>> Holy Trinity, the 3 persons in one God crap, Christianity's pathetic >>> attempt to have its cake and eat it too and have the advantages of both >>> monotheism and polytheism. Officially the 3 persons are supposed to be >>> equal but I always felt the Holy Ghost was the junior partner, the Ringo >>> Star of the Holy Trinity, the Garfunkel in Simon and Garfunkel. >> >> References? I have search any indications that Jesus claimed this, but the >> references comes aways after 529. >> You persists in defending the official doctrine of the christians, the one >> imposed by terror and authoritative argument. >> >> The trinity might have come from Plotinus three hypostases, and St-Augustin >> has used them to make sense of it (the christian trinity). >> >> Mathematical logic is born from a more recent discussion, between Anglican >> Unionist and Anglican trinitarian. Just to introduced more rigor in that >> discussion. See the book of Daniel J. Cohen: >> >> Cohen J. Daniel, 2007. Equations from God, Pure Mathematics and Victorian >> Faith, John Hopkins Press, Baltimore. >> >> Bruno >> >> Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on >> the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. >> >> Moses in שְׁמוֹת (Shemot) or Exodus is addressed by God as "I am." To even >> just say "I am" amounts to declaring oneself God. The Gospels have a number >> of instances with Jesus saying this. > > Even if some time traveller show me Jesus transforming water into wine, I > would believe that the most plausible explanation is that Jesus is a good > prestidigitator. > > And the Moses quote, as well as what you say about the Gospel confirms my > feeling, which is that by “I am” or “I am God”, Jesus just makes the usual > claim of those having a mystic, or spcyhdelic, experience. He is not calming > that he, and only he, is the literal son of God. They seems to say the normal > things, which is that we are gods. All of us. With mechanism, that includes > bacteria and any universal number. But we better no say it, and let people to > discover this by themselves (it belongs to G* minus G). > > Bruno > > > > >> >> LC >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/221f4fb2-fb65-4caf-916b-67a0c18ace4d%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/221f4fb2-fb65-4caf-916b-67a0c18ace4d%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/4ABDB89E-149C-4610-B4A0-E98308774504%40ulb.ac.be > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/4ABDB89E-149C-4610-B4A0-E98308774504%40ulb.ac.be?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2030601173.541330.1561246586818%40mail.yahoo.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2030601173.541330.1561246586818%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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