On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 7:12:14 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote:
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> On Wednesday, August 21, 2019 at 3:13:11 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
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>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 4:56:23 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote:
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>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conformal_cyclic_cosmology
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>>> Is this a viable theory for avoiding a BB interpreted as a singularity? 
>>> AG
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>> Penrose proposed a conformal identification of spatial infinity in the 
>> past and future i^±∞ of FLRW spacetimes. A cosmology expands and in the 
>> limit time → ∞ it transitions into a new cosmology. The de Sitter vacuum is 
>> not eternally stable, so the idea may have some germ of relevancy. I am not 
>> sure about how this would work with vacuum to vacuum transitions. The 
>> exponential expansion of the universe is a sort of time dependent conformal 
>> transformation with a small vacuum expectation for the scale field. To 
>> transition to a new cosmology, say with inflationary expansion, this means 
>> the vacuum expectation is increased.
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>> The overall physics community response to this has been tepid at best. 
>> There are some possible conflicts with observed data.
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>> LC
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> FWIW, ISTM that what GR might be indicating about the BB, is that, insofar 
> as it's a singularity, it couldn't have occurred, and didn't occur.  This 
> is to say the universe didn't become infinitely small in spatial extent, 
> like a mathematical point, but rather that there was a maximal finite value 
> of its energy density, hugely high but not infinite. For this reason I find 
> the cyclic models promising, although, as you rightly indicate, they're far 
> from complete or bug-free. AG
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Which brings up a possibly relevant question: If the total energy of the 
universe occupied zero spatial volume (the presumed condition of the 
universe at t=o according to the BB theory), wouldn't that contradict the 
Uncertainty Principle? AG 

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