> On 6 Oct 2019, at 02:50, Russell Standish <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 09:05:49PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 7:15 PM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>    On 5 Oct 2019, at 07:14, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>        On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 1:10 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>        According to the above non-separable wave function, that means that 
>> Bob
>>        gets only the ket |->,
>> 
>> 
>>    That is vague. It means that Alice will access to the Bobs who get that
>>    state, and never access to the Bobs who did not got it.
>> 
>> 
>> Exactly. And this is what you are required to explain. Just stating it as a
>> fact is not an explanation. 
> 
> ISTM that this follows from the Born rule - the probability of both
> Alice and Bob seeing the same spin is strictly zero.
> 
> I understand that there are problems in deriving the Born rule from
> the MWI, and that derivations that purport to do so (such as mine) are
> contentious (to put it politely :)). So it doesn't exactly solve the
> problem, but maybe directs us toward where the solution lies.
> 
> What I do get is Bruno's point that a single world assumption turns a
> nonlocal state into FTL "influence", the mechanism of which is quite
> unimaginable as you point out. An argument by incredulity, as it were,
> for the MWI.

Exactly.

Bruno


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