> On 6 Oct 2019, at 02:50, Russell Standish <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 09:05:49PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 7:15 PM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On 5 Oct 2019, at 07:14, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 1:10 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> According to the above non-separable wave function, that means that >> Bob >> gets only the ket |->, >> >> >> That is vague. It means that Alice will access to the Bobs who get that >> state, and never access to the Bobs who did not got it. >> >> >> Exactly. And this is what you are required to explain. Just stating it as a >> fact is not an explanation. > > ISTM that this follows from the Born rule - the probability of both > Alice and Bob seeing the same spin is strictly zero. > > I understand that there are problems in deriving the Born rule from > the MWI, and that derivations that purport to do so (such as mine) are > contentious (to put it politely :)). So it doesn't exactly solve the > problem, but maybe directs us toward where the solution lies. > > What I do get is Bruno's point that a single world assumption turns a > nonlocal state into FTL "influence", the mechanism of which is quite > unimaginable as you point out. An argument by incredulity, as it were, > for the MWI.
Exactly. Bruno > > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Senior Research Fellow [email protected] > Economics, Kingston University http://www.hpcoders.com.au > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/20191006005045.GX14811%40zen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/8B59D88F-44AF-4E90-B51D-D3A459BF26F3%40ulb.ac.be.

