On Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 6:11:46 AM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
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> On Tuesday, November 12, 2019 at 3:27:08 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote:
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>> On Tuesday, November 12, 2019 at 11:03:14 AM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell 
>> wrote:
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>>> On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 8:36:35 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote:
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>>>> I'm watching a science channel about the BB. It's claimed that in the 
>>>> VERY early universe, a few seconds after the BB, it was so HOT that 
>>>> Hydrogen was fusing into Helium. BUT ... I thought Hydrogen didn't form 
>>>> until around 380,000 years AFTER the BB, when the CMBR formed. What's 
>>>> going 
>>>> on? TIA, AG
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>>> You are thinking of hydrogen atoms. After the first three minutes, when 
>>> EW was unified, there was a 20 minute period where temperatures permitted p 
>>> + p --> D + e^ + neutrino. These could fuse into He_2^4. A quarter of all 
>>> protons fused into alpha nuclei. This was predicted and supports BB. The 
>>> temperature of universe was billions to hundreds of millions K. Interesting 
>>> that mush fusion happened that quickly. It was later when temperatures 
>>> dropped below 10,000K or so that hydrogen and helium atoms formed.
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>>> LC
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>> Yes, the documentary referred to "hydrogen", not protons. Does the BB 
>> theory explain the existence of protons during the first few seconds or 
>> minutes using the quantum foam? AG
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> Protons emerged from a quark-gluon plasma state after about 3 seconds. 
> This is also around when the EW symmetry broke.
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> LC 
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The thrust of my question was about the quantum foam. I note that Bruce 
emphatically denies the existence of the quantum foam. But the emergence of 
particles from the vacuum seems to depend on the existence of the quantum 
foam. So, in your opinion, does the emergence of particles from the vacuum 
depend on the existence of the quantum foam? TIA, AG 

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