The *episode* (*I'm picking up and drinking a cup of tea*) in a dream may be simulated, but the *experience* itself I have is not simulated. At least for an experience realist, it seems to me.
@philipthrift On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 4:44:32 PM UTC-6, Cosmin Visan wrote: > > But maybe there is a kind of experience that cannot be simulated in a > dream, for reasons having to do for example with consciousnesses > interactions. > > On Thursday, 14 November 2019 20:49:28 UTC+2, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> From the perspective of *experiential realism (ER)* >> >> >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/5Vzj0mFW4KM/_qZECzTTAwAJ >> >> the experience that occurs in a dream *could be the same* as an >> experience that occurs when awake. >> >> Say the experience is DaCoT = drinking a cup of tea (the feel of the cup, >> the warmth and taste of the tea). >> >> A tea drinker knows a DaCoT experience when awake. They could have a >> DaCoT experience in a dream. >> >> (This presumes experiences are real in the sense of ER.) >> >> @philipthrift >> >> On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 3:50:45 AM UTC-6, Cosmin Visan wrote: >>> >>> What would be a sure phenomenon that can help us distinguish between >>> dreams and "real world" ? Because no matter how illogical a dream world >>> might be, this doesn't make us realize that we are in a dream. So the >>> randomness of a dream world is not a phenomenon that can help us >>> distinguish between dreams and "real world". What I'm thinking that can >>> help us make the discrimination is the phenomenon of sense disappearance. >>> If we keep a sense on only 1 stimulus, eventually we will stop perceiving >>> the stimulus. For example, if we hold our hand on the leg of a girl, at >>> first it is pleasant, but after a time we will stop feeling anything. We >>> will have to pet the leg of the girl in order to feel it again. Would such >>> a phenomenon happen in dreams ? If not, then this would be a distinguishing >>> hallmark between dreams and "real world". Do you have other ideas ? >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e9975d42-0ad4-4432-9c72-57abc6731354%40googlegroups.com.
