> On 16 Nov 2019, at 02:51, Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]> > wrote: > > On Friday, November 15, 2019 at 3:06:08 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 10:27 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > > > I notice you habitually avoid discussing the problem of ontological versus > > epistemological > > It is a ontological fact that Bell's inequality is violated and there is no > epistemological explanation for that fact. You keep wanting a mental picture > of the quantum world that conforms with your common sense everyday > expectations of how things should work, I'd like that too but our wish will > never be granted. I like Many Worlds because although it's very bizarre it's > the least bizarre quantum interpretation that fits the hyper bizarre facts; > but the universe doesn't care what I think is strange so if it turns out Many > Worlds is not true then we would know that something even stranger is. > > John K Clark > > There is no decision procedure to determine if QM is ψ-epistemic or ψ-ontic. > It is not provable either way.
Testing Z1* or X1*, or even just S4Grz1 would be enough to see if QM is Turing-epistemic or not. The test done so far confirms it Turing-epistemic character. Bruno > > LC > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1d4b06ad-860a-42ae-a543-2ae3238117de%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1d4b06ad-860a-42ae-a543-2ae3238117de%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/D36CA4F6-7FC6-402D-926F-210415220028%40ulb.ac.be.
