On Tuesday, November 19, 2019 at 3:08:02 AM UTC-6, scerir wrote: > > > True about Schrödinger, but there are *one world* formulations in which > there is *no wave function collapse,* or *no wave function* at all to > begin with. > > @philipthrift > > “The idea that they [measurement outcomes] be not alternatives but all > really happen simultaneously seems lunatic to him [the quantum theorist], > just impossible. He thinks that if the laws of nature took this form for, > let me say, a quarter of an hour, we should find our surroundings rapidly > turning into a quagmire, or sort of a featureless jelly or plasma, all > contours becoming blurred, we ourselves probably becoming jelly fish. It is > strange that he should believe this. For I understand he grants that > unobserved nature does behave this way – namely according to the wave > equation. The aforesaid alternatives come into play only when we make an > observation - which need, of course, not be a scientific observation. Still > it would seem that, according to the quantum theorist, nature is prevented > from rapid jellification only by our perceiving or observing it. [........] > The compulsion to replace the simultaneous happenings, as indicated > directly by the theory, by alternatives, of which the theory is supposed to > indicate the respective probabilities, arises from the conviction that what > we really observe are particles - that actual events always concern > particles, not waves." > -Erwin Schroedinger, The Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics. Dublin > Seminars (1949-1955) and Other Unpublished Essays (Ox Bow Press, > Woodbridge, Connecticut, 1995), pages 19-20. >
Yes, I should add: True about Schrödinger, but there are *one world* formulations in which there is *no wave function collapse,* or *no wave function* -- and *no observers *-- at all to begin with. @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/3628a2fc-82e4-4db7-8ee1-61f88a880946%40googlegroups.com.
