> On 18 Nov 2019, at 22:14, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> 
> On 11/18/2019 12:20 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:
>> 
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>> On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 1:16:46 PM UTC-7, John Clark wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 7:43 AM Philip Thrift <[email protected] 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>> 
>> > Adrian Kent's https://arxiv.org/abs/1305.6565 
>> > <https://arxiv.org/abs/1305.6565> "real path quantum theory" RPQT
>> 
>> If you fire electrons at 2 slits and observe the slits then each electron 
>> takes a real path through one and only one slit and no interference pattern 
>> is produced.  If you fire electrons at 2 slits and do NOT observe the slits 
>> then a interference pattern is produced indicating that each electron went 
>> through both slits. Thus real path quantum theory needs 2 sets of physical 
>> laws, one for when things are observed and one when they are not. Many 
>> Worlds only needs one set of physical laws, and one set is more parsimonious 
>> than two.
> 
> That's what the evangelists for MWI say.  But in fact some more stuff is 
> needed to explain why we see the world as we do, i.e. how probability comes 
> into it and why is there a preferred basis.  Maybe this more stuff can be 
> derived from Schroedinger's equation, but even to do so seems to require 
> additional assumptions.

With mechanism: it requires *less* assumptions. Any physics accepting the 
mechanist theory of mind must explain the physical appearance from a measure on 
all (relative) computations. The math required for doing this requires more 
axioms (like the distribution of prime number studies seems to require 
analytical axioms). That is normal, given incompleteness.

Bruno



> 
> Brent
> 
>> And if everything that can happen does happen then unlike its competition 
>> Many Worlds doesn't have to explain exactly what a "observation" is or worry 
>> about the true nature of consciousness because it has nothing to do with it.
>> 
>> John K Clark  
>> 
>> You're hopelessly deluded. AG 
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