> On 14 Nov 2019, at 23:44, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > But maybe there is a kind of experience that cannot be simulated in a dream, > for reasons having to do for example with consciousnesses interactions.
Of course, this would require the Mechanist hypothesis to be false. Bruno > > On Thursday, 14 November 2019 20:49:28 UTC+2, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > From the perspective of experiential realism (ER) > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/5Vzj0mFW4KM/_qZECzTTAwAJ > <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/5Vzj0mFW4KM/_qZECzTTAwAJ> > > the experience that occurs in a dream could be the same as an experience that > occurs when awake. > > Say the experience is DaCoT = drinking a cup of tea (the feel of the cup, the > warmth and taste of the tea). > > A tea drinker knows a DaCoT experience when awake. They could have a DaCoT > experience in a dream. > > (This presumes experiences are real in the sense of ER.) > > @philipthrift > > On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 3:50:45 AM UTC-6, Cosmin Visan wrote: > What would be a sure phenomenon that can help us distinguish between dreams > and "real world" ? Because no matter how illogical a dream world might be, > this doesn't make us realize that we are in a dream. So the randomness of a > dream world is not a phenomenon that can help us distinguish between dreams > and "real world". What I'm thinking that can help us make the discrimination > is the phenomenon of sense disappearance. If we keep a sense on only 1 > stimulus, eventually we will stop perceiving the stimulus. For example, if we > hold our hand on the leg of a girl, at first it is pleasant, but after a time > we will stop feeling anything. We will have to pet the leg of the girl in > order to feel it again. Would such a phenomenon happen in dreams ? If not, > then this would be a distinguishing hallmark between dreams and "real world". > Do you have other ideas ? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/61cdc800-fda0-4f31-a43a-65a3d522f253%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/61cdc800-fda0-4f31-a43a-65a3d522f253%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/3745412A-FC42-42C2-A4AE-02075BEC7633%40ulb.ac.be.
