On Thursday, November 28, 2019 at 5:50:18 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
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> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 1:27 AM Bruno Marchal <mar...@ulb.ac.be 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
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>> On 26 Nov 2019, at 22:39, Bruce Kellett <bhkel...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
>> wrote:
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> I think it is becoming generally accepted in the physics community that 
>> the entangled state is intrinsically non-local: acting on one part of it 
>> affects the rest, even across the entire universe.
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>>
>> That would mean some FTL actions, but I very much doubt this.
>>
>
> No, there is no need of FTL. For example, in the third (2011) edition of 
> his book 'Quantum Non-Locality and Relativity', Maudlin shows that Flash 
> GRW theory, as developed by Temulka, gives a perfectly relativistic account 
> of the EPR correlations without any FTL action.
>
> Bruce
>


*The GRW flash theory: a relativistic quantum ontology of matter in 
space-time?*
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1310.5308.pdf

whenever there is a spontaneous localization of the wave-function in 
configuration space, that development of the wave-function in configuration 
space represents an event occurring in physical space, namely there being a 
flash centred around a space-time point. The flashes are all there is in 
space-time. That is to say, apart from when it spontaneously localizes, 
the  temporal development of the wave-function in configuration space does 
not represent the distribution of matter in physical space. It represents 
the objective probabilities for the occurrence of further flashes, given an 
initial configuration of flashes. As in BM, there hence are no 
superpositions of anything existing in physical space. However, by contrast 
to BM, GRWf does not admit a continuous distribution of matter: there are 
only flashes being
sparsely distributed in space-time, but no trajectories or worldlines of 
anything


Over and above the flashes being the primitive stuff in physical space, the 
initial configuration of flashes instantiates a dispositional property – 
more precisely a propensity – that fixes probabilities for the occurrence 
of further flashes. The occurrence of such further flashes is the 
manifestation of that propensity. The propensity of any given configuration 
of flashes to manifest itself in the occurrence of further flashes is 
represented by the wave-function. The GRW law supervenes on that propensity 
in the sense that whenever such a propensity is instantiated in a possible 
world, the GRW law holds in that world. By contrast to what is admitted by 
Humeanism, that disposition or propensity hence is a modal property.

...

In conclusion, one may go for an event ontology instead of a particle 
ontology. But the
flash ontology is too sparse an ontology: since it does not provide for 
anything like
continuous sequences of events, it does not have the means at its disposal 
to account for
interactions that are supposed to trigger the occurrence of further flashes 
(such as e.g.
measurements). In the end, therefore, it seems that the flash ontology 
hardly is a convincing
answer to the question of what quantum mechanics tells us about what there 
is in space-time.

@philipthrift 

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