On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 12:44:29 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > > > On 2/21/2020 11:33 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 6:44:12 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 2/21/2020 4:59 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 4:01:04 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/21/2020 12:28 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 9:38:18 AM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 7:40:24 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I prefer a possible middle ground; that the universe isn't really >>>>> stochastic (an inference from QM), but pseudo random. AG >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Typically, "a pseudorandom variable is a variable which is created by *a >>>> deterministic algorithm, often a computer program or subroutine*". >>>> >>>> So if actual randomness is removed from nature, and one supposes this >>>> is replaced by pseudorandomness in nature, then it would part of science >>>> to >>>> discover What is this algorithm? >>>> >>> >>> >>> *If it exists, wouldn't that be a hidden variable? AG * >>> >>> >>> Which would be non-local and therefore consistent with Bell experiments. >>> >>> Brent >>> >> >> >> *Why non-local? AG * >> >> >> Otherwise it couldn't account for the entanglement that violates Bell's >> inequality. >> >> Brent >> > > > *Not sure what you mean. For me "local" means the variable exists and is > set when an entangled pair is created. If the variable exists in the form > of an algorithm, and predicts the result of a measurement, is this > sufficient to call it "non local"? AG * > > > In order to agree with experiment it would have to be an algorithm that > depended on what measurement was made on each particle of the entangled > pair, and that's what would make it non-local. > > Brent >
*How does this differ from a local hidden variable? AG * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1ee5e327-bdc7-4aa9-b30d-195516eb631f%40googlegroups.com.
