[Galen Strawson]
"There is no conflict between a ‘hard-nosed’ physicalist /materialist/
naturalistic scientific approach to the world and all-out belief in the reality
of consciousness, conscious experience, good old fashioned qualia - whatever
you want to call it or them".
[Philip Benjamin]
Conflict? Naturalism? Materialism? Consciousness? None of these terms actually
belong the realm of science. Conflict involves the issues of meaning, origin,
causality, aseity, infinite regress etc. which are all essentially philosophic
or theological or religious matters. Naturalism/ materialism ought to be
redefined in the light of dark-matter and its possible chemistry. The
difference between bio dark-matter and astrophysical dark-matter is that
between bio light-matter (92+ elements) and astrophysical light-matter (largely
H & He). The candidates for bio dark-matter with its bio dark-matter chemistry
are possibly axions, monopoles and neutrinos (all with masses negligible w.r.t
electrons). The ratios of these masses within a bio dark-matter atom will be
the same as those of bio light-matter atom.
Nobody (other than perhaps the brilliant and clever Swami
Vivekananda, the uninvited speaker at 1895 Chicago Parliament of Religions)
knows what consciousness is. Is it the unknown Yin-Yang of Tao, or the
Atman-Brahman of Eastern Mysticism?
The unbridgeable Rudyard Kiplinger gap between East and West is that
between an un-awakened (dead) pagan consciousness and awakened (quickened)
non-pagan consciousness. (Pagan is derived from Pan-Gaia-n, earthlings or earth
worshippers). That difference is exemplified in the instant transformation of a
“dead” consciousness of the Phoenician pagan profligate Augustine of Hippo (the
chief architect of modern Western ethos) into the non-pagan “quickened”
consciousness through the instrumentality of Romans 13:13 via the “accidental”
singing of a little girl!
(https://www.midwestaugustinians.org/conversion-of-st-augustine).
The WAMP (Western Acade-Media Pagan/Paganism) fails to recognize is the
Augustinian acceptance of Protoevangelium (Genesis 3:15) as interpreted by
Rabbi Saul of Tarsus in Romans fifth chapter. It is that “quickening” which led
Augustine to “identify” the Platonic concept of Unmoved Mover as the Adonai
(plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim (uni-plural), which has Patriarchal, Prophetic
and Apostolic authority. That is the beginning of rationalistic Augustinian
West.
Evidentialist
Philip Benjamin
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Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 4:26 PM
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Subject: Re: Best lecture (so far) on 'consciousness'
Watched the entire video, but do not know what to make of it. It cannot be
because I am a physicalist . Could it be his use of language and definitions
are imprecise?
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 4:07:25 AM UTC-4, Philip Thrift wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FHLjHC-soU<https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D7FHLjHC-soU&data=02%7C01%7C%7C07ee40e6f2d645ee6c9008d7d9a7dfea%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637217187341630557&sdata=BqPsKI5gQ58EWcYVNfxBSb2TCIBKU4HAFme0LxELOp8%3D&reserved=0>
"there is no conflict between a ‘hard-nosed’
physicalist/materialist/naturalistic scientific approach to the world and
all-out belief in the reality of consciousness, conscious experience, good old
fashioned qualia - whatever you want to call it or them"
-- Galen Strawson
@philpthrift .
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